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April 23, 2008 - 12:40pm — sfiecke
As a former daily traveler of University Avenue between St. Paul and Minneapolis, I always thought that if any place made since for a light rail line, that would be it. The road is super busy and is a major conduit between the cities, with much of the population likely to use transit. I just received the following group e-mail from Rep. Mark Buesgens, R-Jordan, in which he makes some good points about the cost of the project. Read it and tell me what you think: "The Governor vetoed a $70 million bonding provision for a part of the $900 million Central Corridor light rail line connecting Minneapolis to St. Paul. Let us assume that the cost of the project would not grow. Even without a government discount or a bulk discount, one can buy a 36-seat transit bus (the CTS rear engine model from Champion Bus Inc. of Imlay City, Michigan) for about $120,000. So for the same price for the 11-mile light rail line, you could buy 7,500 buses. These buses are 38 feet long. So the length of 7,500 buses, rolling bumper to bumper, would be 285,000 feet. The 11-mile route of the rail line is 58,080 feet long. So you could have five lanes of buses cramming University Avenue, bumper to bumper for the same price as the train. Or you could have one lane of buses headed in each direction, bumper to bumper, with 4,500 buses waiting in mothballs until they were needed. Or you could have 100 buses headed in each direction of the 50-block route, with one bus for each block. That would leave you with 7,400 buses in mothballs. With a five-year warranty on each bus, it would take you 375 years to run out of buses. So unless the Central Corridor rail line will be in operation until the year 2383, it might be cheaper to go with buses." |
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The Hiawatha line runs a $10...
Back to page topThe Hiawatha line runs a $10 million deficit annually.
Can someone name one light rail system in the US that at least breaks even?
The Minnesota Zephyr...
Back to page topThe Minnesota Zephyr
Nice to hear from you. The...
Back to page topNice to hear from you. The Zephyr is considered heavy rail; try again.
Plus its not a public means...
Back to page topPlus its not a public means of transportation. It is private and serves dinner.
I know that.....I was being...
Back to page topI know that.....I was being sarcastic
Light rail is a joke. I...
Back to page topLight rail is a joke. I live in Seattle and the liberals shoved a light rail project down our throats. It is now hundreds of millions over budget, it is way behind schedule and the overall package had to be cut back. The lines that are running now make no impact on relieving congestion. It is the same with Portland. Big promises are made in the beginning and none of those promises are ever realized.
If the money they acquired through taxation to fund this light rail, was used for Metro bus service, the whole Puget Sound could have 24 hour a day bus service, with no cost to ride the bus.
With the history of light rail in this country, I still don't know how any additional light rail systems are ever approved. I think it is the liberal mindset of, "Yea, we know every light rail system ever tried in this country has been a failure, but we can make it work in this city with a little extra money and time. We are smarter than the liberals in these other cities".
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
The good and bad thing about...
Back to page topThe good and bad thing about an internet blog is the voice it gives people. Without it, we wouldn't have the pleasure of hearing all the complaints of kidjon.
I enjoy reading all the comments on shakopeenews.com, how can we get more opinions and more people to write in here? It seems only a handful of people actually make comments. I think more comments from more people would spur on discussion. Because obviously if you have someone like kidjon making comments, he/she will cut it off with negativity.
Tell all your friends. Every...
Back to page topTell all your friends. Every chance I get, I tell people about the Shakopee Valley News Web site.
Not only is there news and information posted on the Web site that might not be in the print edition, but there also is the opportunity to voice an opinion.
If someone mentions the fact that they read a story in the Valley News and liked it, disliked it, agreed with it or disagreed with it, I tell them to tell the Valley News about it. Believe it or not, there are people out there who are interested in what you have to say. And, while those people might disagree with your opinion, they have a chance to say so. I'm all for a healthy debate.
I have told all my friends I...
Back to page topI have told all my friends I went to high school with in Shakopee about this website as well. I think it has been turned into a great website that is very user friendly. I too have noticed that just a few people express their opinions on this website. I wish there was more participation, because after all, behind the 2nd Ammendment, the 1st Ammendment right to free speech is the most important right we have in this great country. There, was that positive enough for you goldengopher?
Atta boy kidjon! I love a...
Back to page topAtta boy kidjon! I love a good debate, and I am inclined to be swayed on an issue when there are compelling reasons. More views and more opinions will help keep the discussion going and make this website a fun place to debate.