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National pet store chain linked to puppy mills


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The Humane Society said today that Petland stores are selling puppies from so-called puppy mills, but telling customers that the dogs come from good breeders.

The animal-protection group made the charges at a news conference in Washington after an eight-month investigation of the chain. It involved 21 Petland stores, including two Minnesota stores, and dozens of breeders and brokers.

The two Minnesota stores are in Shakopee and St. Paul.

The Humane Society says dogs at the mills were found in dirty cages and cages with wire flooring so large that the puppies' paws and even the paws of the mother dogs would fall through.

In a statement, Petland says the company does not support substandard breeding facilities and provides each store with guidelines on humane care of animals.


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Very sloppy reporting. Just...

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Very sloppy reporting.
Just posting the Human Society fund raising letter without even bothering to ask the local store or company for a response.

It took two seconds for me to find the response on the Petland site.

I have no connection to Petland, but I noticed that we tend to get these sensational stories this time of year (about pets, toys etc...) so I try and find out both sides.

For balance - Here is what Petland posted:

http://www.petland.com/PetlandInformation/HSUS.htm

Petland responds to HSUS report

At Petland, healthy, happy, well-socialized pets within our care are our number one priority as they have been for 41 years.

We do not support substandard breeding facilities and we provide each Petland store with “Humane Care Guidelines,” that were developed in conjunction with the U.S.D.A. to assist with breeder facility inspections as it pertains to pet selection.

Reports such as those posted on the HSUS web site surface every year around the holiday season in conjunction with their annual fundraising efforts. Unfortunately, we were not interviewed or consulted nor were we a part of any of the editing process. This is sensationalism at its best. HSUS has a history of publicizing false information in an effort to raise money. They do not operate a single pet shelter or pet adoption facility anywhere in the U.S. To the contrary, over the last 10 years, Petland has adopted out more than 270,000 homeless puppies and kittens nationwide.

Additional information to understand about HSUS:

1. During 2006, HSUS contributed only 4.2 percent of its budget to organizations that operate hands-on dog and cat shelters. In reality, HSUS is a wealthy animal-rights lobbying organization (the largest and richest) that agitates for the same goals as PETA and other radical groups.

2. HSUS raised money online with the false promise that it would “care for the dogs in the Michael Vick case.” The New York Times later reported HSUS wasn’t caring for Vick’s dogs at all. HSUS president Wayne Pacelle told the Times that his group recommended that government officials “put down” the dogs rather than try to adopt them out.

3. HSUS senior management team includes a former spokesman for the Animal Liberation Front (ALF), a criminal group designated as “terrorists” by the FBI.

4. Less than 12% of money raised for HSUS by California telemarketers actually ends up in HSUS’s bank account. The rest is kept by professional fundraisers.

5. HSUS raised a reported $34 million in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, supposedly to help reunite lost pets with their owners. Little of that money was spent for its intended purpose. Public disclosures of the disposition of the $34 million in Katrina-related donations add up to less than $7 million.


Submitted by Robert Thibodeaux on November 21, 2008 - 9:30am.

Mr. Thibodeaux: The report...

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Mr. Thibodeaux:

The report includes a summary of Petland's response at the time it was written.

Speaking of good reporting: Are you going to contact the Humane Society for a response to the five allegations you posted?


Submitted by Pat Minelli on November 21, 2008 - 12:21pm.

"Terrorist supported Humane...

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"Terrorist supported Humane Society makes fund-raising press release,
local media supports"

In addition to the story, the headline is the same sensationalist headline they were peddling with there press release.
Figured I would follow with an equally sensationalist start.

As to your question - I did what I learned from college Journalism friends - I second sourced the information to confirm them.

I found more than one source for each of the five points.
(An independent confirmation, not just someone repeating the information)
something that can not be said of the Humane Societies fund raising press release reprinted here.


Submitted by Robert Thibodeaux on November 21, 2008 - 2:30pm.

Again, the story was about 2...

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Again, the story was about 2 percent of the press release by the Humane Society. The response from the company was also abbreviated. But we did include a response.

Regarding sources: Perhaps you missed a word from your journalism pals in college: credible.

One can list 100 sources, especially from Internet sites and groups with political bents. The "source" of the sources speaks volumes to the veracity of the information.


Submitted by Pat Minelli on November 21, 2008 - 3:43pm.

It was the sensational...

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It was the sensational headline and 0% corroboration other than the press release.

As for credible: Do New York Times, LA Times, Washington Post and Humane Society count?

Here are a few of many sources I used:
#1) Worth Magazine.
You can look the numbers up yourself and do the math.
A number of other sites also have similar info.

#2) New York Times August 2, 2007 and again Feb 2, 2008

#3) Again, you can look at HSUS site and find Goodwin. Then find ALF own supporters papers (Animal People News for one) that profile the same person as the ALF spokesman.

#4) LA Times July 2008

#5) Washington Post March 2006

So, what were your credible second sources?


Submitted by Robert Thibodeaux on November 21, 2008 - 4:31pm.

As the story said: The...

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As the story said:

The Humane Society said today ...

... and the response: In a statement, Petland says the company does not support substandard breeding facilities and provides each store with guidelines on humane care of animals.

We briefly described what the society said. We briefly ran the company's response. The headline is accurate.

Has the humane society responded to the five accusations you outlined? Will you post those too?


Submitted by Pat Minelli on November 21, 2008 - 4:33pm.

Pat, What you are saying is...

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Pat,
What you are saying is you published a story that is one groups opinion without corroboration
(a group with an established history of sensationalism for fund raising and they point to there own sources, not independent sources)

What I responded with were not accusations, they are established facts (with primary and secondary sources).

By the way, what was your credible source and second source?


Submitted by Robert Thibodeaux on November 21, 2008 - 5:04pm.

Robert: As with many news...

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Robert: As with many news items, we published a representation of one party's charge, and a representation of the accused party's response. A national organization said this. A national chain of stores responded by saying that.

We did not "investigate" what either side said in an attempt to find out what is true. That would be impossible to do with the dozens of similar stories that are published each month. But both sides had their say. We were fair. That's what is important. If bigger news organizations choose to investigate, they will.


Submitted by Pat Minelli on November 21, 2008 - 5:16pm.

Pat, I think the saying...

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Pat,

I think the saying goes, "When in a hole, stop digging".


Submitted by Philip Oliver Hole on November 21, 2008 - 5:29pm.

Pat, That was my original...

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Pat,
That was my original point. Sloppy reporting.

You published a fund raising press release and then at the end tacked on the fact that the information was disputed.

What is missing is any background on the source of the accusations.

I was able to do a two minute search and discovered that the Humane Society has an established history of sensationalized stories like these that have very little basis in facts.

But the reason I am concerned at this for more than just journalistic reasons - this is not just some random National story.

This story could directly impact a local business and the jobs of local people.

To publish accusations like this without any corroboration is very irresponsible.


Submitted by Robert Thibodeaux on November 21, 2008 - 5:43pm.

We published accusations...

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We published accusations made at a national news conference by a national organization. We published the national news release provided by a national chain of stores.

Both sides were heard regarding the initial claims. At this point, that's all we know. If more information is released, we'll publish that information as well -- and any response from the other side.

I'm not in any hole, Robert. But we'll continue to dig on local news stories as well as we can.

Meanwhile, I understand WCCO-TV is planning a story on an alleged puppy mill. (Not sure about this.) You might want to watch for it and keep your fingers limber because the Humane Society is involved in the story, I believe.


Submitted by Pat Minelli on November 21, 2008 - 6:05pm.

And there you have it folks!...

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And there you have it folks! Thib and Minelli tied at 5 apiece, With Philip Oliver coming in with a slight lead over yours truely


Submitted by PAT T LAND on November 21, 2008 - 6:23pm.

Well that was fun reading....

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Well that was fun reading. It sounds similar to the national mainstream media. A Democrat politician or democrat friendly group hold a press conference and will say something like this; "Republican Senator So and So wants to starve women and children because of his policies". The national media then goes on the air and they say this; "Today, Democrat politician Snuffy accused republican Senator So and So of wanting to starve women and children due to his policies". And that is the news story! And it constantly happening with the Republicans being on the wrong side of that type of reporting.

I have to concur with Mr Thibodeaux


Submitted by kidjon on November 22, 2008 - 7:45am.

Or it could be, for example,...

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Or it could be, for example, Republican Sen. Norm Coleman and his staff claiming election-count irregularities, and the media promptly reporting the accusations, and then the response from the Franken campaign.

It works both ways.


Submitted by Pat Minelli on November 22, 2008 - 9:55am.

Pat, You're right, it works...

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Pat,

You're right, it works both ways. More often than not, against the right. With that, you and I will have to agree to disagree. I am with Robert and kidjon on this one. By the way, Robert did not say you were in a hole; I did.

Hello, Pat T.


Submitted by Philip Oliver Hole on November 22, 2008 - 4:27pm.

This is fun. I love this...

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This is fun. I love this back and forth bantering. America is great.


Submitted by kidjon on November 22, 2008 - 4:31pm.

This is fun. I love this...

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This is fun. I love this back and forth bantering. America is great.


Submitted by kidjon on November 22, 2008 - 4:32pm.

I enjoy good and healthy...

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I enjoy good and healthy debate and discussion. The editorial pages are my favorite part of newspapers. That's one of the things that make this country great. I know people don't always agree with or understand some things, but I can tell you we are committed to doing the best job possible.


Submitted by Pat Minelli on November 22, 2008 - 4:37pm.

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